Some old computer games

[JoeLouie]

http://www.abandonia.com/genre.php?genre=action&page=0

Thought that you guys would enjoy this.

[ripper007]

wow, there is alot of my old time favorites.

thanks

[freonchill]

HARDCORE

time to relive the 80s! (and 90's)

btw - i dont see anything about this being legal or not
is it?

i dont even thing microprose even exists anymore (airborne ranger)

details anyone ?

[lothodon]

most abandonware is still illegal, but like you mentioned, some companies aren't even around to prosecute.

[JoeLouie]

HARDCORE

time to relive the 80s! (and 90's)

btw - i dont see anything about this being legal or not
is it?

i dont even thing microprose even exists anymore (airborne ranger)

details anyone ?

hmm... didn't even think about that...

Just checked out the FAQ on the site and found this:

Q: What is Abandonware? Is it legal?
A: Wikipedia: "Abandonware is computer software which is no longer being sold or supported by its copyright holder. Alternately, the term is also used for software which is still available, but on which further support and development has been deliberately discontinued." Since the software is no longer sold or supported, the copyright holders are not directly harmed in any way. This is why abandonware sites are, for the most part, ignored by the law. The distribution of copyrighted software however is, and will allways be, illegal!

So, does that mean that we're safe?

[ripper007]

I am sure we are not safe.
they will more than likely come after our butts for getting some old outdated , unsupported software games, then go after the real thiefs that are hacking , jacking , and stealing new software and hurting the programers from profit.

that makes sense, right.

lol. I like that site , and personaly , I think theres nothing wrong with it. I am glad to see a site like that that still offers old games.

I did download decent. and I guess my computer is too fast. the spacship was jumping up and down so fast I could not control it. make my head hurt after a bit. lol.

need to install it on a old machine.

[freonchill]

you know, ive been thinking about this the other day
its seems that copyright law is just a invisible layer of control, the ability to limit the distribution of any product or service by a theoretical owner

in this digital age, where anyone can be the distributor of any idea or random series of binary numbers, it is the pseudo-owners of this copywritten work, or is it the captiatlistic greedy gluttons that make their money of the support of such idealistic historical precedental hierarchies of order, who are attempting to, by sueing anyone who breaks their control, regain control that they have thought they have lost by the development of other distributors.

perhaps this is something that has been always a problem for any capitalistic business model that has a product or service that can cost X (where X is a determining factor in the pricing of a product or service as it is the metaphorical "blood, sweat, and tears" to which a person or company puts into an ideal for said product or service), can be lost so quickly by the lack of a copyright allowing anyone to make an exact duplicate without having to do the R&D and just getting the final product from the previous company and using reverse engineering to break any product or service down into the smallest common denominator of parts which can then be mass produced in some 3rd world country where the price of labor is much cheaper.

though, in the first period of the information age there have been many fights on the legallity of the distribution of ideas in this non-physicial information world. where there are analogies of p2p networks being like knives, guns, or any other pseudo-legoa software where as they werent originally developed or created for illegal purposes, but its just like the mobsters in the 1920's during prohibition used legal means to distribute alcohol not because they wanted people to have fun while drinking, but to make money for the greedy people in their organization

the capitalistic corporations have become ever so much more evil than even the mobs now, they dont answer to anyone except the stock holders and the board; and neither of those groups give a d4mn about what the company does as long as they make their bottom line of increasing their own money.

i have always found the stock market to be something of an anomony in the history of the world. i remember in highschool, in history class, when they first started the stock market and how it was as if the companies that were traded were gaining value just because people thought that they were safe to invest in, or that they would take a risk in the chance that the company would make more money the following year and they would get some more money for nothing other than risking their money in a chance that the extra money that said company had allowed that company to take more risks of their own in developing some new product or service.

so, as i have gotten wholely off-track in this idle discussion of things
i guess what was my original idea was that this virtual money that was distributed around with the stock market, which as spiraled out of control in the mass organic growth that all corporations have had in this era and how it is tied to the virtual information that is being distributed among people in this digital information era. is it that the product or service that company X creates is so useless that people are willing to get it for free rather than supporting company X, no. it is that people are willing to get anything for free just because they can. its like the public library system, yes taxes from the people do pay for books, the buildings, the salaries of the workers, and everyone pays for that; but to the end user, the direct cost when visiting the library is pretty much free. but why does the library system work, or used to work for the distribution of ideas - because the books were still getting bought, the writer, editor, publisher, printer, & etc were all getting paid and the end user was getting access to the item, in this case a book for the education of mind-opening experience. the same goes for a play, theatre, opera - because the ability to see the show required that they came, paid a fee and saw the entertainment first hand directly. then the digital age showed up and there was the ability copy the performance so that it could be watched "whenever and whereever" the end user wanted to.

the problem for dvds and music is that exactly; when beta came out; the mpaa was forced to


... to be continued later (got a paper to write for materials class)